{"id":2252,"date":"2011-05-23T17:22:52","date_gmt":"2011-05-23T16:22:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/morris.cymru\/?p=2252"},"modified":"2023-07-09T21:46:47","modified_gmt":"2023-07-09T20:46:47","slug":"wicipedia-manteision-diglossia","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/morris.cymru\/cy\/2011\/05\/wicipedia-manteision-diglossia\/","title":{"rendered":"Wicipedia a&#8217;r &#8220;manteision diglossia&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Mae <a href=\"http:\/\/www.apdyfrig.com\/2011\/05\/23\/wikipedia-iaith-a-lefelau-cydweithiocyfranogiad\/\">Rhodri yn cyflwyno syniad diddorol iawn<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>O bosib, gellid tynnu o hyn bod rhyw fantais yn dod i\u2019r amlwg i  ieithoedd sydd \u00e2 diglossia gyda Saesneg yn achos Wikipedia. Am eu bod yn  rhannu iaith gyda\u2019r iaith fwyaf ar Wikipedia yn gyffredinol (a\u2019r iaith  weinyddol ar lefel uchaf Wikipedia), mae ychydig o\u2019r bywiogrwydd hynny  yn tollti drosodd i\u2019r ieithoedd hynny. Bosib bod y gymuned Wikipedia ym  Mhrydain, Iwerddon a\u2019r UDA yn gryfach o ganlyniad i\u2019r ffaith bod y  Saesneg dal yn dominyddu\u2019r wefan. Wn i ddim os yw hyn yn cyfri fel  effaith bositif i diglossia gyda Saesneg am unwaith! Mae\u2019n dibynnu os  taw \u2018gwerth\u2019 neu \u2018nifer\u2019 yw eich meini prawf chi wrth gwrs. O bosib bod  mwy o angen (efallai oherwydd diffyg adnoddau eraill) am nifer mwy o  erthyglau mewn un iaith na\u2019r llall hefyd.<\/p>\n<p>Efallai hefyd bod y tebygolrwydd o gael erthygl gyfatebol, well a mwy  trwyadl, yn Saesneg yn golygu bod llai o gynhyrchu erthgylau stwbyn, a  rhoi mwy o gig ar erthyglau. Mi allai wrth gwrs, fod o ganlyniad i d\u00eem  golygyddol mwy bywiog hefyd (mae Wikipedia Cymraeg yn ail o ran  niferoedd Admins, i\u2019r Gatalaneg), ond mae\u2019r enghraifft Wyddelig yn  awgrymu nad yw hyn yn wir.<\/p>\n<p>Dyna rai sylwadau sydyn, <em>off the cuff<\/em>. Faswn i\u2019n hapus i  glywed unrhyw sylwadau pellach, yn arbennig o ran y math o lefel  cyfranogiad mae rhywun am ei gael mewn gwahanol ieithoedd neu sefyllfaoedd diglossaidd.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>O ran y &#8220;manteision diglossia&#8221; mae Cymraeg wedi elwa i ryw raddau trwy gryfder y project Wikipedia yn Saesneg. Rydyn ni&#8217;n gallu ailgylchu&#8217;r erthyglau fel y mae Rhodri yn dweud uchod. Hefyd mae gyda Wicipedia Cymraeg mwy o bresenoldeb trwy Wikipedia Saesneg. Ydy&#8217;r twf y fersiwn Cymraeg yn dilyn y fersiwn Saesneg (dw i ddim wedi astudio&#8217;r data yn fanwl iawn)?<\/p>\n<p>Rydyn ni wastad eisiau fersiwn Cymraeg bach o rywbeth sy&#8217;n llwyddiannus yn Saesneg. Rydyn angen idiom fel &#8220;keeping up with the Joneses&#8221; gyda chyfenw gwahanol.<\/p>\n<p>Paid ag anghofio&#8217;r meddalwedd chwaith, roedd e ar gael am <a href=\"http:\/\/hedyn.net\/\">Hedyn <\/a>a phrojectau eraill. (Heblaw <a href=\"http:\/\/pentalarpedia.com\/\">PenTalarPedia<\/a> dw i&#8217;n methu meddwl am fwy o wicis Cymraeg cyhoeddus ac agored i bawb, tu fas o brojectau Wikimedia &#8211; unrhyw un?)<\/p>\n<p>Wrth gwrs, yn gyffredinol rydyn ni&#8217;n gallu darllen yr ymchwil newyddaf yn Saesneg ac hefyd mynd i gynadleddau rhyngwladol, gan gynnwys\u00a0 cynadleddau o bobol sy&#8217;n siarad ieithoedd lleiafrifol eraill, i ddefnyddio&#8217;r <em>lingua franca<\/em>, Saesneg.<\/p>\n<p>Hmm, ond bydd e&#8217;n neis i weld mwy o brojectau ar-lein a chynnwys sy&#8217;n unigryw i&#8217;n iaith.<\/p>\n<p>Mae llawer o ddadansoddiadau eraill yn bosib gyda sgriptio a chrafu data. (Mae Rhys Wynne wedi bod yn casglu <a href=\"http:\/\/www.delicious.com\/rhyswynne\/ystadegau+wikipedia\">ystadegau Wikipedia<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p>Hoffwn i weld canlyniadau o ymchwil dwfn ar Wicipedia Cymraeg.<\/p>\n<p>Mae rhai o&#8217;r erthyglau ar Wicipedia Cymraeg yn bodoli yna yn unig &#8211; maen nhw yn unigryw i Wicipedia Cymraeg fel, er enghraifft, <a href=\"http:\/\/cy.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Llandeilo_Abercywyn\">Llandeilo Abercywyn<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/cy.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Geraint_Jarman\">Geraint Jarman<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/cy.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Angharad_ferch_Owain\">Angharad ferch Owain<\/a>. Mae rhai o erthyglau yn well ar Wicipedia Cymraeg hefyd, e.e. <a href=\"http:\/\/cy.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Recordiau_Sain\">Recordiau Sain<\/a>.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mae Rhodri yn cyflwyno syniad diddorol iawn: O bosib, gellid tynnu o hyn bod rhyw fantais yn dod[&#8230;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"activitypub_content_warning":"","activitypub_content_visibility":"","activitypub_max_image_attachments":3,"activitypub_interaction_policy_quote":"anyone","activitypub_status":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[12,120],"tags":[344,612,722],"class_list":["post-2252","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-iaith","category-y-we","tag-mediawiki","tag-wicipedia","tag-wikipedia"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.3 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Wicipedia a&#039;r &quot;manteision diglossia&quot; - 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